Chris did play a blinder at the end (it means blindingly good in Scotland) and I defo like his deeper insight, especially about games adhering to or throwing off the shackles of genre definitions. I play a lot of EVE and there is nothing in your gaming past that you can carry over into that game in terms of mechanics/metaphors/shortcuts. Increasingly those are the kind of games I enjoy, or games that toy with it, like Frog Fractions