Sorbicol Posted May 8, 2015 I remember the absolute euphoria in this country when Tony Blair and the Labour Party annilated the corrupt bloated corpse of a Conservative party back in 1997 I think it speak volumes that the reaction to today's result is general disbelief and 'how the fuck did that happen?!?' On the bright side we can look forward to feel that euphoria again in 5 years time. Just a shame by that point we'll have left the EU and We'll need passports to get into Scotland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dibs Posted May 8, 2015 My workmate today said "At least Cameron is pro Europe". At least we are in Ireland and have at default a disdain for English politics. When challenged, he said "well, he is more pro europe than UKIP". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merus Posted May 8, 2015 that doesn't seem hard like, it's a real accomplishment to hate immigrants more than UKIP yet somehow we managed it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Posted May 8, 2015 A distinction to be proud of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett E Posted May 8, 2015 Thanks Merus, you reminded me that it could be worse, we could have Tony Abbott. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Synnah Posted May 9, 2015 I was talking to my cousin on Steam yesterday; he's around 16, and was asking what my hopes for the election had been. I mentioned I'd voted Green but the best I could have hoped for was a Labour/SNP coalition, and it quickly became apparent that while he wasn't happy with a Tory government, what he would have preferred was a UKIP majority. I guess I should have seen it coming; I've played Civ V with him, and his tendency to always pick Germany and play in the most militaristic way possible pointed towards right-wing tendencies. Plus he's complained about unelected EU officials before, which I should have spotted as a UKIP talking point. I blocked him yesterday, because I was at work and I didn't need the stress of talking to him about this stuff, but I'm going to have to talk to him about it at some point. Obviously I want to try and talk him out of it, but it feels like he's read up on specifics a lot more than I have; said he'd read both UKIP and Green's manifesto, which I haven't done (Though I do know what most of their respective policies are). The difference between being a working adult with a bunch of interests outside of work, and being a bored school-age teenager, I guess. I don't know how successful I could be at convincing him that UKIP are awful, though. Well. At least Nigel Farage has stepped down. Maybe he'll be replaced by Paul Nuttalls of the UKIPs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tberton Posted May 9, 2015 Honestly, if he's only 16, you should at least be able to get some counter-arguments in his head. I know I had all sorts of stupid opinions at 16, and even if hearing counters wouldn't change my mind immediately, that stuff can still stick with you and change your mind down the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vasari Posted May 9, 2015 On 5/9/2015 at 4:51 PM, Synnah said: his tendency to always pick Germany and play in the most militaristic way possible pointed towards right-wing tendencies. Plus he's complained about unelected EU officials before, which I should have spotted as a UKIP talking point. Ugh, this sounds like a 4chan thing. There's a far cry between being right wing/anti-immigrant and supporting Nazis. 4chan apparently loves Farage, and it seems like alot of kids are getting involved with UKIP because it's basically an anti-PC meme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melmer Posted May 10, 2015 http://blog.lboro.ac.uk/general-election/media-coverage-of-the-2015-campaign-report-4/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Griddlelol Posted May 10, 2015 Wait, people read newspapers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperBiasedMan Posted May 10, 2015 People who vote do, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vasari Posted May 12, 2015 The new equalities minister is against same-sex marriage. The new justice minister supports the death penalty. I'm guessing the environment minister will be Jeremy Clarkson and the health minister will be a packet of cigarettes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Synnah Posted May 12, 2015 Jesus' fucking ballsack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jammy Posted May 13, 2015 Man, imagine if every government position was filled with a person who hated all the ideals they were supposed to uphold. Don't actually imagine that it's really depressing. I'm kinda worried about the direction Labour are going to take after this. I don't want their takeaway to be 'copy the right'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osmosisch Posted May 13, 2015 On 5/13/2015 at 1:38 AM, Jammy said: Man, imagine if every government position was filled with a person who hated all the ideals they were supposed to uphold. Don't actually imagine that it's really depressing.It worked for Ron Swanson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brett E Posted May 13, 2015 On 5/13/2015 at 1:38 AM, Jammy said: Man, imagine if every government position was filled with a person who hated all the ideals they were supposed to uphold. Don't actually imagine that it's really depressing. I'm kinda worried about the direction Labour are going to take after this. I don't want their takeaway to be 'copy the right'. That's the direction they took during the election. It's rare that I do so but I agree with Diane Abbott, this stuff about the problem with Labour being too left is ridiculous, they was just slightly left of the Tories when they should be left of centre. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jammy Posted May 13, 2015 On 5/13/2015 at 12:32 PM, Brett Eveleigh said: That's the direction they took during the election. It's rare that I do so but I agree with Diane Abbott, this stuff about the problem with Labour being too left is ridiculous, they was just slightly left of the Tories when they should be left of centre. Fair point. I hope their takeaway isn't that they weren't copying the right enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Wookie Posted May 13, 2015 I move back to the UK at the end of the month... I was hoping to avoid a Tory government almost entirely, having left in 2010, but oh well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaff Posted May 13, 2015 Depressing links o' the day "For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone." - David Cameron David Cameron puts God back into politics The Telegraph’s Tactical Voting Tool Was Coded To Never Recommend The SNP David Cameron says there should be no "means of communication" which "we cannot read" But finally, the Save our Human Rights petition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperBiasedMan Posted May 13, 2015 Quote "For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone." There is no way to read that but villainously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Synnah Posted May 13, 2015 It's incredibly sinister. I thought Cameron had at least an ounce of moderation in him, but he's going full-on fascist state now. Everyone thought the Lib Dems were useless in the coalition, but it seems like they were somehow preventing Cameron from revealing his Ultimate Final Boss form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vasari Posted May 13, 2015 It hasn't even been one week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites