Merus Posted February 5, 2016 On 2/5/2016 at 6:01 PM, brkl said: I've done the quarry and I swear I have no idea what makes the pointy triangle things click and work. Sometimes they work in just two squares, usually they need space. No need to spoil it for me, I just feel dumb at the moment. The possibility of brute-forcing some of these puzzles makes me break out into a cold sweat. How??? Why??? For the +1s: Reveal hidden contents I've found the monoliths are actually very helpful. It gives you the general direction, absolutely, but considering how tight the effective monolith area is that makes for a small pie slice in which you're searching for a circle. I'd start with the one nearest the quarry; it seems like the easiest to completely fill up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eot Posted February 5, 2016 On 2/5/2016 at 11:11 PM, Merus said: The possibility of brute-forcing some of these puzzles makes me break out into a cold sweat. How??? Why??? For the +1s: Do they matter for the endings? Because I don't enjoy hunting them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted February 6, 2016 I've now witnessed. This puzzle. I've cut out tiny little paper pieces and I still can't figure it out. I'm going mad. I should take a break, but I'm almost done with this area, I'm pretty sure. Please send help. I'm dying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merus Posted February 6, 2016 On 2/5/2016 at 11:44 PM, eot said: Do they matter for the endings? Because I don't enjoy hunting them. The game's structured so that you can basically decide for yourself when you're done. It only acknowledges a handful of actions as stopping points. (Also I don't know, there's this one 'ending' thing that feels like it might respond to increasingly esoteric actions, and it seems likely that there's lots of little things embedded in the world for the super-fans.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brkl Posted February 6, 2016 Oh, god, trying to quote shows me spoilers. Just managed to avoid them. Anyway, I wouldn't say I brute forced them. It was still quick to find when they work and the puzzle was usually in figuring out the rest. Only two of them got me stuck for a while. But I'm still not sure about the mechanism. Going back in tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brkl Posted February 6, 2016 Yup, I went back to the simpler ones and I think I have it now. I'm at five lasers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Wookie Posted February 6, 2016 I'm also at 5 lasers, having polished off the castle and bamboo forest . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graddy Posted February 6, 2016 Just figured out the "+" component!!! I think. The latest Crate & Crowbar had a clue that made me figure it out. I was already ruminating over it in the back of my mind, so I didn't mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melmer Posted February 6, 2016 My save file now reads 494 +86 +1 I needed a hint that was in spoiler tags here to open up a new area. I also looked up the rules to those triangle puzzles, even though I've done like 10 of them I never actually figured out how... Still haven't used any hints or paper to solve any actual puzzle boards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iax Posted February 6, 2016 So I think I'm done for now, sitting at 518 +45. I'm not really doing the + puzzles. They are often quite clever, but some of them are really tedious to execute and actively looking for them feels a little bit too grindy for my tastes. Actually, this ties to a small issue I have with the game (minor potential spoiler about the nature of the + puzzles). Reveal hidden contents There is this weird conflict I've felt throughout the game, but maybe it's a conscious decision... The game presents itself as this meditative experience a lot, but it's often the opposite of that. It feels like it wants me to sometimes stop by the lake or something and contemplate the nature of reality for a while and at the same time it pushes me to obsessively look for puzzles at all times. I also needed the same hint as you Mington, not sure if it would ever occur to me to do this thing. Even when I saw some hints for it, I just didn't put them together. One other thing I had to sort of look up was the wreck puzzle as I wanted to make sure I know how it's supposed to work. Reveal hidden contents Turns out I did, I just have trouble picking up tones from the sound effects, even some puzzles in the much simpler forest area gave me a lot of trouble, especially the pipe one. I didn't hear an obvious solution in it, I had to try a range of solutions that I thought could be it, one of them worked. Also, even while being careful not to read any spoilers, I've read about the Reveal hidden contents credits area somewhere, but I think I'm glad I did. And yes, I also didn't have to use paper for any panels, except Reveal hidden contents the two colored ones in a container stuck on a house in the central "village". You have to change the color of the light three times and remember how the puzzles look like under these conditions. I was actually pleasantly surprised by my spatial intelligence at times :-) Anyway, yes, this game is good! Not sure if I have anything new to add to the discussion except adding some more superlatives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted February 6, 2016 I'm stuck on a puzzle. I think I need a hint. ): EDIT: In case you need a reference for my current progress and where I might be without opening up the spoiler: I've activated seven lasers. Reveal hidden contents I'm inside the mountain. I'm at a puzzle where there are four tiny puzzles, and the shapes I make with them end up being the shapes I need for the bigger puzzle they're revealed to be a part of. It's drivin' me nuts. I don't want a hint, though. I've solved everything up to this point all on my own (besides one puzzle I accidentally solved and didn't realize why it was a solution until someone helped me understand a mechanic I didn't realize existed). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Professor Video Games Posted February 6, 2016 On 2/6/2016 at 10:26 PM, Twig said: I'm stuck on a puzzle. I think I need a hint. ): ... I don't want a hint, though. I see... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melmer Posted February 6, 2016 On 2/1/2016 at 10:58 PM, Mington said: GIANT FLOOR PUZZLE BASTARD Yeah I was stuck there for a day Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted February 6, 2016 On 2/6/2016 at 10:34 PM, video games said: I see... NEED VS WANT ): On 2/6/2016 at 10:34 PM, Mington said: Yeah I was stuck there for a day Damn. I've had the game running for a few hours now, just looking at it. It's awful. ): Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melmer Posted February 6, 2016 You should go solve some of the other lasers and come back to it ...won't help with this puzzle, just might be more satisfying use of you time. The quarry was fun, go do the quarry if you haven't done the quarry yet quarry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted February 6, 2016 I'd already done the quarry. I solved it anyway! Yay me! So I beat the game! ...When it finished, it went to a screen with "Start a New Game" as the only option. Can I go back, to go do the areas I didn't finish before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Professor Video Games Posted February 7, 2016 You've probably already discovered this but there's an autosave right before the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Latrine Posted February 7, 2016 I'm now at 523+82, so pretty end game spoilers here: Reveal hidden contents The Challenge was fun, just barely got the last puzzle in my last attempt. I think I got quite lucky that run, I definitely wasn't confident going in to the pillars. I needed a little help mopping up panels. I couldn't identify some of the pitches in the ship sound puzzle and I missed a panel in the quarry control room. Also I see now how you get the credits sequence without restarting a new game, and you need that panel for the total count. I guess all I need to do now is mop up +1s and any missing audio logs. It still seems kind of daunting to find them in the wild but I am still finding new ones on my own occasionally. Also I still like randomly coming across hidden/perspective based artwork in the game that just feels like a special bonus. Also apparently there's another interesting way to track your progress in the game: Reveal hidden contents Look at the lake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted February 7, 2016 Hah yeah I did figure it out. Now I'm stuck in the desert thing. I don't like these puzzles. They're annoying/tedious. ): Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted February 7, 2016 Aaaaand now I'm stuck on both the temple-thing and the cluster-of-buildings. I think that's all I have left, as far as Main Puzzles go. I tell you what I have not been this into a video game in a long time. And I definitely have not felt this determined to solve it on my own in a long time. That moment when I finally get the trick to a specific type of puzzle, and then I breeze through the rest of that section, it's always so good. I have a feeling I'll fall off once I have to start looking for SECRETS because besides a few things for the thing, I haven't found any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prawks Posted February 7, 2016 Got a question about the ++ puzzles Reveal hidden contents Is one of them related to the machinery that you can move in the lumber mill building in the quarry? I can move some things around in suspicious ways that don't seem related to any line puzzle on a screen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iax Posted February 7, 2016 prawks: Reveal hidden contents I think it is, I've moved the crane outside the window and it makes the "this is a + puzzle, but you're not in the correct spot" sound when I stand on the floor of the building and click just under the crane. I haven't figured out how to get it, but I also didn't spend much time on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
melmer Posted February 7, 2016 So the second + on the save file relates to... Reveal hidden contents finshed first + areas, so when you have all the line puzzles solved on one of the black pillars. Kinda boring really. The one i finished is the one on the shady forest I've just spent the last 2 hour trying to get into this cocking room Aghagahahghghaghagahhahagahha. I know what to do and have got very close a couple times. I think I might give it rest for a few weeks a play some other stuff. Feel like I've wasted my Sunday afternoon now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iax Posted February 7, 2016 Haha, I remember grining like an idiot when trying to get into that room, the whole thing felt so silly in a good way. Managed to get there before it started to feel frustrating. There's certainly an element of luck to it as I think Reveal hidden contents there's no way for the computer to know and balance the difficulty of the generated puzzles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nappi Posted February 7, 2016 Small thing that you may have missed that makes the area a bit less frustrating (but not by much) Reveal hidden contents The fourth puzzle (the one on the table) shows you the location of the maze puzzles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
