BigJKO Posted February 6, 2014 Thanks you two. I'm not wondering about the legal side (Alex's got me covered there. ), just purely looking for ideas on a How do I make it look good if I have to write descriptions for some of the games? Justin, this is already something I'm afraid not a lot of people want, so I want to make just one big book if I can get 100 pre-orders. All the logistics of making that one book is headache enough, without thinking about doing even more. After all this back and forth between print shops and lawyers, I really hope I do end up being able to make this. Otherwise I'd be sad. And toblix wouldn't stop bothering me about it, yeah?! EDIT: If I do write descriptions for them all, I could put it below each illustration.. That would at least mean the same page count.. I don't know. It'd be a bit of text, but not too much, discreetly below the illustration. Any potential buyers out there who has an opinion on whether that would put them off this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin Leego Posted February 6, 2014 But we need to think big. We need to think about how this is eventually going to become the PointClicking Box Set in years to come. You line them all up and all the spines create another beautiful illustration. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben X Posted February 6, 2014 How much description are you planning on/required to have? Because having it for every game would definitely be the better option. Would one or two lines at the bottom of each one really cause a big design/space issue? Would it help/be allowed to have all the descriptions in a chapter at the back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dosed Posted February 6, 2014 Barney, Crawl looks sweet as all hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigJKO Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 11:54 AM, Ben X said: How much description are you planning on/required to have? Because having it for every game would definitely be the better option. Would one or two lines at the bottom of each one really cause a big design/space issue? Would it help/be allowed to have all the descriptions in a chapter at the back? I don't know the extent of the descriptions yet (I'll get some guidelines from Alex later), but I think I could fit it under the illustrations. That way I could just do one for them all without blowing up the page count. I think that'll be the way to go. Something discrete below each illustration. Depending on what guidelines I get from Alex, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigJKO Posted February 6, 2014 This is what I'm thinking of doing, if I go for just writing descriptions for everything. But man, that's gonna be one hell of a task.. After two days I'm up to illustration #2.. And they're not even particularly interesting and full of bullshit adjectives.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben X Posted February 6, 2014 It's only two sentences! I can write some (EDIT: all, really, despite not having played half of them!) of them for free if you like EDIT: maybe a more interesting approach would be to primarily tak about the games' art styles? For example, Full Throttle's being inspired by Mike Mignola. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osmosisch Posted February 6, 2014 Barney, that looks awesome. I have to say the name is a bit of an issue with me though given the years of precedence Dungeon Crawl has. Like, your game will very hard to google with that name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonCole Posted February 6, 2014 I would probably buy this granted it was affordable for me personally (I dunno, ~$50 shipped would be impulse territory and for more I'd have to think about it) and preorders happened at a time when I happened to have money (soon, tax refund time yeaaaaah!) Descriptions on each page would be great and that mockup is super solid. Lump me in with those that would think it was weird to have some with descriptions and others without. If you were going to have some with and some without, I think you should have the page laid out slightly differently as not to highlight the lack of description by means of white space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigJKO Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:45 PM, Ben X said: It's only two sentences! I can write some of them for free if you like EDIT: maybe a more interesting approach would be to primarily tak about the games' art styles? For example, Full Throttle's being inspired by Mike Mignola. Holy shit, Ben. That would be quite amazing. And I really like the art style idea! That's a much more interesting approach. Let me wait and see what Alex sends back in regards to guideline for this to see if there are any specific requirements for the descriptions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben X Posted February 6, 2014 Cool dude, I'll PM you my email in the meantime. WARNING: the Time Gentlemen, Please! entry will be two paragraphs long and extremely effusive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigJKO Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 3:56 PM, Ben X said: WARNING: the Time Gentlemen, Please! entry will be two paragraphs long and extremely effusive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hermie Posted February 6, 2014 That layout looks good, and I agree with Ben. In fact, you could probably easily crowdsource this to the forum. Another idea would be to go more personal with it. What inspired you to make art for this particular adventure game? Why this scene or this character? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dibs Posted February 6, 2014 You should probably go for Objective Game Summaries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigJKO Posted February 6, 2014 Hmm.. That's not a bad idea. The personal angle would be good. Maybe a mix? One personal sentence and then a sentence of trivia on art style.. On 2/6/2014 at 4:04 PM, dibs said: You should probably go for Objective Game Summaries. With an Objective Review Score at the end. Done! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TychoCelchuuu Posted February 6, 2014 I could write stuff too! I have experience writing objective things! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben X Posted February 6, 2014 I've been pushed out already Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonCole Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 4:08 PM, TychoCelchuuu said: I could write stuff too! I have experience writing objective things! I don't think Tycho has enough experience. His reviews don't include enough comprehensive lists of details in games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigJKO Posted February 6, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 4:11 PM, Ben X said: I've been pushed out already It was those paragraphs of Ben There, Dan That trivia wot done it. YOU'RE OUT! Reveal hidden contents Not really. I'll have a think about the personal angle.. Maybe write some of it and get you to help me with the harder ones? The personal angle, why I chose this game, scene, etc. was actually something Alex already suggested. Lawyer'd! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben X Posted February 6, 2014 Well, I suggested him (even though you claim to have had his page open) so I'll take credit for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dibs Posted February 6, 2014 Your Full throttle man is amazing btw! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben X Posted February 6, 2014 If you haven't yet, check out the rest of them through the link in JKO's sig. They're all brillo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dibs Posted February 6, 2014 Yes! My bro and his wife love Grim Fandango, so i was eying up a print for them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roderick Posted February 6, 2014 BigJKO, that book is something I definitely interested in. I've been mulling over buying some of your work in picture frames, but I never found the right one (the Star Trek picture is in my top list for it). A book is super cool though, collecting them all in one. About the descriptions: I like having them, because it adds some context to the pictures, gives you a reason to linger a little. But for heaven's sake, make them fun! Not just an informative Wikipedia quote - show us why we love these games, why you picked them, reminisce or share an insane anecdote. It would be a wasted opportunity not to make this deeply personal and inspiring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
