Roderick Posted February 8, 2014 On 2/8/2014 at 8:35 AM, TychoCelchuuu said: Uh, what would count as something that does have something to do with gender if colors, activities, and so on don't have anything to do with gender? Gender is a social concept that picks out various things that we choose to see as gendered - it's not like there's a master list of objective scientific genders out there in the world with a corresponding list of related properties that we deviate from at our peril. If pink is a girl color then pink is a girl color - it's not like we can ever be wrong about that. Nothing. There is indeed no master list. That's my point; that it's all a bunch of baloney; the whole concept of gender is made-up, a social construct, a cultural product. In that sense, I would argue it is wrong to gender the color pink, because gender has nothing to do with a color, not inherently. We should stop talking about gender in terms that we don't agree with, and that starts with not divvying up random aspects among perceived genders. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Problem Machine Posted February 8, 2014 On the one hand, those are just two examples. I'm sure if you poked around you could find a female streamer with totally decent chat and a male streamer that was as gross (though you'd have to work pretty hard to find one as grossly objectifying of the streamer himself). On the other hand, they're probably fairly representative of the overall community, or set of communities, that frequent game streams. Possibly the worst part is that anyone who wants to avoid chat like that then has to avoid the chat of female streamers in general, which creates a vicious cycle of douchebag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben X Posted February 8, 2014 On 2/8/2014 at 8:16 AM, Rodi said: Why is baking a 'female thing'? Why is appreciating flowers, or sowing for that matter? Or sewing for that matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
syntheticgerbil Posted February 8, 2014 Looks kind of goatse now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nachimir Posted February 9, 2014 On 2/6/2014 at 1:00 PM, Ben X said: "You don't make up a story like that in a male dominated industry, that exists within a patriarchy" I don't really want to resurrect the Allen discussion, so just: thank you for calling me out on this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tegan Posted February 9, 2014 On 2/9/2014 at 10:45 AM, Nachimir said: I don't really want to resurrect the Allen discussion, so just: thank you for calling me out on this. You don't want an... Alien Resurrection? edit: wait shit you said Allen damnit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Posted February 10, 2014 On 2/9/2014 at 5:31 PM, tegan said: You don't want an... Alien Resurrection? edit: wait shit you said Allen damnit I did and almost wrote the same thing. Owned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toblix Posted February 10, 2014 Wait what. It never said Alien? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nachimir Posted February 10, 2014 I didn't tweet this because it would be so lacking in context there and people might assume inappropriate/untrue things about my personal politics, but I'm curating a show with about 200 entries at the moment, each of which had to submit a video, and: Sad voiceover girlfriends are the sad etsy boyfriends of video games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lu Posted February 10, 2014 I could swear it said Alien at some point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clyde Posted February 10, 2014 On 2/10/2014 at 12:32 PM, Nachimir said: I didn't tweet this because it would be so lacking in context there and people might assume inappropriate/untrue things about my personal politics, but I'm curating a show with about 200 entries at the moment, each of which had to submit a video, and: Sad voiceover girlfriends are the sad etsy boyfriends of video games. This dude is so close to me that it is scary. I do it to myself though. I'm currently wearing a shirt of the same color with a sharpie drawing of a weasel and a boat on it (and some geometric doodles). I even have a similar hat on(but with no earrings). I shit you not. I'm going to go take a picture. I fuckin told you. Selfies in the Feminism thread; this is how my Monday morning is going. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben X Posted February 10, 2014 On 2/10/2014 at 12:32 PM, Nachimir said: sad etsy boyfriends Ha ha, that's amazing. I miss regretsy.com How's the general quality of the SVGs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nachimir Posted February 10, 2014 Variable. When a somewhat bored sounding woman is talking about dragons and magic it does get really reminiscent of sad etsy boyfriends though, and I can't help but think they'd probably make much more interesting games than the ones they're doing VO for, if they had the urge to and felt it was accessible, then I get sad that making games is still such a fucking heavily gendered pursuit. Clyde: Nothing wrong with line drawings of animals on t-shirts *cough* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewar Posted February 10, 2014 On 2/10/2014 at 12:32 PM, Nachimir said: I didn't tweet this because it would be so lacking in context there and people might assume inappropriate/untrue things about my personal politics, but I'm curating a show with about 200 entries at the moment, each of which had to submit a video, and: Sad voiceover girlfriends are the sad etsy boyfriends of video games. Hmm? I don't get it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nachimir Posted February 11, 2014 In the past few days my job means I've watched a bunch of trailers and preview videos with narration about dragons, magic, ruthless megacorps etc. by really unenthusiastic sounding women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hermie Posted February 11, 2014 Are any of these public in any way? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nachimir Posted February 11, 2014 So many of them aren't that I can't really make time to pick out the ones that are. Soz. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadHat Posted February 13, 2014 On 2/10/2014 at 2:41 PM, clyde said: This dude is so close to me that it is scary. I do it to myself though. I'm currently wearing a shirt of the same color with a sharpie drawing of a weasel and a boat on it (and some geometric doodles). I even have a similar hat on(but with no earrings). I shit you not. I'm going to go take a picture. I fuckin told you. Selfies in the Feminism thread; this is how my Monday morning is going. Man that is some even stick distribution on those skins. I mean, uh, feminism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin Leego Posted February 14, 2014 My mental image of Clyde was completely inaccurate in almost every way. Apart from the hat. And the probable interest in jazz timings. Anyway, a Twitchfilm columnist protests against The Lego Movie's conflicting messages: Reveal hidden contents "The LEGO Movie deserves to be an equal-opportunity inspiration. But a movie that has been, in part, about the importance of stepping outside the rule set to use construction toys to explore creativity, concludes with a joke about how there are some rules that aren't made to be broken: like how girls really suck at LEGO." (Destroy All Monsters: Girls and Lego) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
