Rave Posted July 30, 2013 Hopefully this is the right board to ask this. I just bought an Hp Envy, as my first foray into pc gaming. The computer has been a nice step up from my laptop and I was fully aware that the video card wasnt great. A friend has a card that apparently rates higher that he is willing to give me. We just aren't 100% if it is a better card (it's much older) I can't really get a new card until atleast the fall so this is my only chance to upgrade the card. http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=678&gid2=417&compare=radeon-hd-7570-vs-radeon-hd-5750-1024mb I have a 7570 he is offering the 5750. We just aren't sure if there is a 2gig version of my card because if there is we can't find a comparison for it. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joewintergreen Posted July 30, 2013 Wow, video card naming conventions are stupider than ever now I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rave Posted July 30, 2013 Yeah that's what's confused me, I don't want to change the card if this is a step down. I am h in trouble with my card at 1080p and according to that comparison the other card is suppose to be better. The 57 is from 2009 and the 75 is from 2012. I really hope someone with some knowledge on this could help me out. I'm so new to computers this all seems very confusing and intimidating! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gormongous Posted July 30, 2013 Yeah that's what's confused me, I don't want to change the card if this is a step down. I am h in trouble with my card at 1080p and according to that comparison the other card is suppose to be better. The 57 is from 2009 and the 75 is from 2012. I really hope someone with some knowledge on this could help me out. I'm so new to computers this all seems very confusing and intimidating! I'm pretty sure the 5750 is better. Basically, the first number is the generation number. The second (and third) are what's really important. The 5750 is a higher-tier card, the newer architecture of the 7570 will not make up for it. Just make sure you have the power to run it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rave Posted July 30, 2013 Thanks I'm going to try making the switch tonight. I should have enough power I think I have 460 watt. Hopefully between this and 8 gigs of ram ill be ok with holding off on a card (7870 might be my next upgrade) for a few months. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
subbes Posted July 30, 2013 Make sure it hasn't been used for bitcoin mining. If your friend is a libertarian or Ron Paul supporter the card may have been redlined for months in a poorly-ventilated mining rig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrik Posted July 30, 2013 You're better off looking for somewhat standalone ratings if you can't find a direct comparison. For example: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+7570 http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+5750 As you can see, the 5750 is a fair bit more powerful than the 7570 — but still falls significantly short of a new £150-ish card. Comparing game benchmarks is useful, too. For example, most cards of the past few years have been benchmarked against Battlefield 3, so even if the two cards aren't in the same benchmark you can still see how they fare in the same game (just try to make sure the CPU and RAM aren't too wildly different in both cases). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rave Posted July 30, 2013 Thanks guys, is there a simply way to uninstall drivers for windows 8? I used disk sweeper last night to try and clean the drivers before switching the cards and windows crashed and wouldn't start up. Without safe mode I couldn't get back in and ended up having to do a system restore which ended up being a pain in the arse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonCole Posted July 30, 2013 The drivers are the same. You do not need to uninstall AMD drivers to switch between two AMD cards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rave Posted July 30, 2013 So its as simple as just plugging in the older card and starting back up? There wont be any incompatibilities? You have just made this alot easier if so I hope its true. Is this the case going down generation of cards as well? (I am guessing this isnt a normal situation and most people actually upgrade). WIndows 8 crashed when using driversweeper yesterday and I had to do a full system restore (lost some files and data) so not having to use driver sweeper would be a godsend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrik Posted July 30, 2013 You really don't need those driver cleaning utilities and shit nowadays unless you encounter a legitimate problem. Just uninstall, reinstall, good to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Posted July 30, 2013 In my experience if you have an incompatible driver Windows will just drop down to a shared lowest common denominator super VGA driver and you'll be okay (but without any high color modes or acceleration) and you can fix any issues then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rave Posted July 30, 2013 So I uninstall after I swap the cards or before hand? I am going to try this again tonight after work. Thanks for all the help guys it's appreciated! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonCole Posted July 30, 2013 Just take out your old card and drop in the new one. If there are any issues, it'll drop down to a base level driver as Jake said and you can simply try to uninstall drivers at that point or whatever. I don't think that'll be necessary, because as I said the drivers are all universal nowadays and the only issue you'll ever encounter is switching between AMD and Nvidia. Even in the case of switching between brands, you can typically just disable the drivers and uninstall the software without using any registry changing stuff and you'll be no worse off. The days of conflicting AMD/Nvidia drivers are essentially over, at least in what I've read and in my personal experience (switched from a GTX 560 to a AMD 7870 about 6 months ago, no need to run any special software and no noticeable issues to the present day). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rave Posted July 30, 2013 Ok I'll give this a shot anyone done this with widows 8? The lack of a safe mode worries me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrik Posted July 30, 2013 I think you're worrying too much, just bloody go for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewar Posted July 30, 2013 Nothing is stopping you from swapping back to the old card if everything goes horrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted July 30, 2013 Unless your computer explodes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joewintergreen Posted July 31, 2013 I'm on Windows 8 and it does indeed work the way people are saying if that helps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rave Posted July 31, 2013 Thanks everyone! I switched the cards, and after some trouble getting my desk top to stop reading at 800x600 so I could reach my icons...it worked! I know this is an older card, but growing up only playing consoles and never even seeing what a pc game can look like, I was blown away. I only tested Farcry 2-3 and ran around in team fortress but I was very impressed with the difference. Besides farcry 3 which runs at medium settings at 1080p at about 50 frames both the other 2 are a solid 60 both basically maxed. And a nice cherry on top was buying the humble Indy bundle for some great games. Between today and Crusader King 2 sale on the weekend I am set for sometime. Thanks again everyone for the help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lu Posted July 31, 2013 Good on ya! Enjoy them video games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thrik Posted July 31, 2013 Computer games, man. Computer games. Jeez. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
